Bourbonlopnik (Pappy) Question...

"WilliamsSW" (williamssw) 07/16/2018 at 17:05 • Filed to: bourbonlopnik, pappy van winkle, buffalo trace

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So, I checked out a fairly new pub right near me for lunch today, and had a very nice Buffalo Trace tasting (Blanton’s/Eagle Rare/EH Taylor Small Batch) , followed by a couple of Eagle Rare’s.

But the other tasting that they offer (for $50) included a half ounce of Pappy 10 year, plus two others that I’ve forgotten.

So, question is, do you think it’s worth it to try the Pappy next time? I’m curious - it’s got a ridiculous reputation, which is intriguing.  But it wouldn’t surprise me if it didn’t live up to it. 

Bonus DOTS 1st gen Corvair sedan for your time:

Future next gen S2000 owner > WilliamsSW 07/16/2018 at 17:09

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It is always worth putting a sweet bo urbo n to your lips.

WilliamsSW > Future next gen S2000 owner 07/16/2018 at 17:13

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Hey I just had 2+ Eagle Rares, plus some other good stuff, so you’re preaching to the choir.

Next time I go there, I gotta try the Pappy - they brag about having it.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > WilliamsSW 07/16/2018 at 17:14

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For bragging rights, yes. Otherwise, just go pick up some Weller 12 and that’s very close and made from the same mash. 

CKeffer > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 07/16/2018 at 17:19

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Agreed, on all accounts. When I tried it, I thought it was good, but that there are plenty less expensive options (Weller 12 among them) that are just as tasty and are way easier to find. 

Thomas Donohue > WilliamsSW 07/16/2018 at 17:21

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If I recall correctly, the 10 year is the Rip Van Winkle , which is around $55 a bottle without markup ). Unless you get to taste some of the Pappy’s (15 or 20+ year? ), I don’t think it’s worth it.

Personally I’d take the $50 and buy a bottle of Weller Reserve (~$35 and made right next to the V an W inkle stuff). You get a lot more tastings a few bucks left over for dinner .  

Future next gen S2000 owner > WilliamsSW 07/16/2018 at 17:21

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I love me some Jefferson’s Ocean but I’ve only found one guy who had it. I can’t remember finding an establishment that carried it, store, bar or restaurant.

LOREM IPSUM > WilliamsSW 07/16/2018 at 17:21

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I’d hope it’s good at $33.33 per fluid ounce.

I dunno. If that’s your thing, you feel you’ll potentially appreciate it, and the loss of $50 isn’t a huge deal, it’s probably worth a shot... Pun intended.

Even if you walk away unimpressed and feeling duped, at least you’ll know for yourself .

Khalbali > WilliamsSW 07/16/2018 at 17:22

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I really wasn't a fan of pappy the one time I scored a free sip when I worked at a fancier restaurant. But I was also much younger and didn't have nearly the palette that I do now. As others have said, try it if you're into bourbon just to say you have, but I certainly wouldn't spend $50 for half an ounce personally, although I'd love another free sip to see if I'd enjoy it more almost a decade older.

WilliamsSW > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 07/16/2018 at 17:23

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For bragging rights, I’m thinking what the hell.  The tasting that I did have was pretty good for $15.

WilliamsSW > Khalbali 07/16/2018 at 17:27

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Well, the $50 was for a tasting of 3 different high end bourbons, I just don’t remember the other two (one was made by Woodford, that’s all I recall).

Definitely not something I’d make a habit of, but maybe just to say I’ve tried it.

WilliamsSW > Future next gen S2000 owner 07/16/2018 at 17:29

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Hmm, not familiar with that one at all...

RPM esq. > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 07/16/2018 at 17:32

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This is the only correct take.

WilliamsSW > Thomas Donohue 07/16/2018 at 17:34

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I think you’re right about the 10 year- - I didn’t look it up at the time, but it struck me that the more famous Pappys are aged a lot longer than 10 years.

nermal > WilliamsSW 07/16/2018 at 17:37

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No.

You should spend between $20 and $30 for a bottle of alcohol. Anything less than $20 is probably crap. Anything more than $30 is probably not good enough to justify the extra cost.

Where have all the lightweights gone? > WilliamsSW 07/16/2018 at 17:38

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I struck bourbon gold the last time I was in London. They had 5 variants of the Van Winkle family (ORVW, Van Winkle 12 yr, Pappy 15, 20, 23) available as a flight of 1/2 pours, as well as Blanton’s Straight from the Barrel (not readily available in the US). There was an almost overwhelming agreement of ranking from best to last: 20 yr, 23 yr, 12, 15, 10.

WilliamsSW > Where have all the lightweights gone? 07/16/2018 at 17:42

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Oooh, that’s a murderer’s row that I’d love to try, as long as it didn’t cost too much.

And I think it’s actually the ORVW that was in the tasting that I saw.

Future next gen S2000 owner > WilliamsSW 07/16/2018 at 17:50

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https://jeffersonsbourbon.com/

Long story short, they age it for 12 years, then age it again on a ship cruising around the world.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > WilliamsSW 07/16/2018 at 18:19

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Doesn’t hurt to try it. But $50 for a half an ounce? Not with my money.

This is my preferred whiskey:

And the entire bottle sells for around CAD$27.

Thomas Donohue > Future next gen S2000 owner 07/16/2018 at 18:25

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Is it really 12+ years? They have it near me, but if I recall there were no age statements, just ‘been round the world’ a few times or something like that. Seemed a bit gimmicky.  

I was intrigued, but not at $85 / bottle for the cask s trength . I’ll stick with the small batch for $35.

shop-teacher > WilliamsSW 07/16/2018 at 18:35

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I see that Corvair all the time in Villa Park. The guy DDs it, even in the winter. Makes me happy every time I see it. Hopefully I'll meet the guy some day.

Where have all the lightweights gone? > WilliamsSW 07/16/2018 at 18:44

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The flight cost around 55 GBP (70 USD approx.), and I was dumbfounded at that price. I’ve seen it available Stateside for a LOT higher than that.

Future next gen S2000 owner > Thomas Donohue 07/16/2018 at 18:55

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I thought I read that somewhere. This video says eight before it goes on the ship. Then I think I read three years on the ship but who knows. It was so good. I may get some on my way home. It may upset the missus. She’ll have to deal with it.

https://jeffersonsbourbon.com/jeffersons-ocean/

WilliamsSW > shop-teacher 07/16/2018 at 19:00

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I was wondering if it was the same one you see! This was in downtown Hinsdale- you can see th e Grant Square sign in the background. Looked to be in good shape too. 

shop-teacher > WilliamsSW 07/16/2018 at 19:08

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That’s the one. It’s in good shape, but i ts definitely a driver. He used to have a light blue one with a lot of rust. I’ve seen this guy DDing Corvair for nine years now. I respect that.

Thomas Donohue > Future next gen S2000 owner 07/16/2018 at 19:40

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I noticed online they have the regular Ocean for $65. I may give that a go....do like my briny ‘island’ whiskys.

WilliamsSW > Where have all the lightweights gone? 07/16/2018 at 21:19

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I would take a flyer on that for $ 70. No brainer.

WilliamsSW > shop-teacher 07/16/2018 at 21:20

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That’s amazing. I wonder if he works where I saw the car? It was parked far out where employees might park.

WilliamsSW > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly 07/16/2018 at 21:22

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Well it’s 3 half ounces for $ 50, I just don’t remember what the others were.

Still pricey certainly, but maybe as a 1 time treat. 

WilliamsSW > nermal 07/16/2018 at 21:23

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Eh, it depends on taste and preferences. This was at a bar, so you’re not getting a bottle at that price.

And once in a while it’s nice to have a treat to see what the fuss is all about.  

shop-teacher > WilliamsSW 07/16/2018 at 21:57

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Could be. He's always dressed professionally when I see him. I'd guess he's about your age, or a little older maybe.

Where have all the lightweights gone? > WilliamsSW 07/17/2018 at 09:38

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If you’re in London, head to Hammersmith and go to the Melody inside St. Paul’s Hotel. That’s where I had the flight.

Khalbali > WilliamsSW 07/17/2018 at 13:50

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Yeah if you’ve got the cash for it try it once just too see. I just didn't really care for it fresh out of college but I would maybe feel differently now that it's been almost 10 years.